It seems that trolls accidentally and spontaneously adhered to these principles in 2016, so I believe there is something to them. The question is if and how this can be recreated. Apparently Alinsky was able to consciously do so. Or perhaps he was simply riding the wave of his own generation of spontaneously generated shitposters
Where is the action of the Right in a post-Trump era? It’s gone. This is why things seems dead. It isn’t because we’ve been defeated so much as that the fun is gone. Perhaps this is the purpose of the Covid lockdowns. They are fun killers. But the flipside is that there are more rules to break than ever before. And breaking the rules is always fun
Rehashing 2016 can get tedious. It sounds like Al Bundy talking about playing football. But it is important to analyze it and figure out why it worked. No need to write it off as simply a fluke, that’s the blackpilled way of looking at things. The establishment is becoming weaker even as it becomes more totalitarian. It is vulnerable to these tactics
The fact that this type of tactic could never work now illustrates how the modern woke corporation is NOT motivated by profits over ideology. You could NEVER trick Google into supporting a right wing position to spite Apple. Could not happen.
However, I bet you could play one woke group off of another (ie blacks vs trannys) with some amount of success
We will have to see in the Jan 6 protestors fit this pattern. It may be a case of the establishment being softer to dissidents during Alinskys time, or we may look back on it as he describes here.
But, the Jan 6 protestors are more or less normie republicans. They are sympathetic figures. So, it would be wise to canonize them.
This is really funny for a number of reasons
1) compare this attitude to the attitude of “they’re a private company, they can do whatever they want!” that not only the right, but now even the left, repeats like it’s in the constitution or something. It wasn’t always like that
2) this guy just makes up that people have “a right to their job” out of fucking nothing and everyone goes along with it because fuck it. Chad 1930s leftist labor leader vs virgin 2021 leftist nwo bootlicker
@justanothertoxicmale I think it's important to recognize the differences between our situation and Alinsky's. The current regime is more hostile to us than it was to him. I think we might need to take inspiration from the Irish living under the British Penal Laws, or the Polish living under Soviet control. Those groups survived under the thumb of a major power that didn't like them.
@justanothertoxicmale History repeats itself. Today's "clown world" memes are reminiscent of Polish gnome memes. https://espionart.com/2017/02/24/ridiculing-the-regime/
@boomcoast That is very true. The system is far more hostile to us than it was to him. Nevertheless, these are rules that can be broadly applied to any group of “have-nots” to one extent or another. The Polish living under the Soviets probably, unconsciously or intentionally, put many of these same tactics to good use
@justanothertoxicmale I guess it's possible in the abstract, but it depends on what goals you're trying to push. If your goal is "save western civilization," you'll be stuck because it's too big with no first steps. Look at this recent PF march. Did it accomplish anything? Maybe it helped them with recruitment, but it didn't achieve any thing institution wise.
@boomcoast the goal is to put more right wing people in power and have them wield that power towards right wing policies, while doing the opposite to the left
@justanothertoxicmale Even that's pretty vague. What's "in power?" Does president count? It seems like the power of the president can be nullified by 3 letter agencies.
I know it's a meme at this point, but "build a wall" was a tangible goal that was achievable. A more local goal might be something like stopping racial scapegoating (crt) in your local school. Maybe that's why Biden's trying to label parents groups as terrorists.
@boomcoast this excerpt is from a chapter that basically says having vague goals is a good thing
@justanothertoxicmale Yeah, it's been a while since I've read the book. I'd think you'd need both.
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